February 14, 2008
Anyone Still Going Indirect!??
Hey guys,
I’ve been experimenting with this a lot lately and my verdict right now is this….If you’re still going indirect…if you’re still using opinion openers…if you’re still trying not to telegraph interest…YOU’RE AN AMATEUR & YOU’RE NOT GONNA GET LAID ALL THAT MUCH!
Doing all this song and dance can work…and sometimes does, but I’m thinking that entire indirect system was laid out initially by a bunch of guys WHO WERE NEEDY that didn’t want to APPEAR NEEDY to a woman. Not a bad plan…..but why not just not be needy!? Then you could do anything and it wouldn’t come off as needy!! Wouldn’t that be a lot better? What I’m saying, guys, is that it’s time to take off your training wheels. STOP BEING FUCKING NEEDY!!
First off, know this: WOMEN LOVE HAVING SEX MORE THAN YOU DO! I know you’ve heard this before, but burn that into the back of your brain. When you’re talking to a woman, realize in the back of your head, “This woman wants to fuck!” More specifically, “This woman wants to fuck me!” Think of how radically different all your approaches would be if you just strongly held that one little belief! Do you need to ask a woman that wants to fuck you “who she thinks lies more, men or women?” or does that just seem a little unnecessary with the belief that she just wants to fuck you.
Now let’s temper this a bit. She DOES want to fuck you….but here’s the rub! Society has trained her since she was a little child that she loses value for every guy she sleeps with. Her value (she is trained to believe) is much like driving a new car off the dealer’s lot….the greatest depreciation in the cars value occurs in that moment. Likewise, women are trained to believe that sleeping with a NEW guy depreciates her value and the higher her number of new guys, the lower her value (she can have sex as many times as she wants with any of her “new guys” afterwards with no additional value loss, though). But to help her out, society has also told her that she is “naturally monogamous” and will only want to be with one guy. More bullshit designed to keep a woman from gaining what she truly wants–lots of orgasms from many guys! (BTW…If you don’t believe me on this read “Sperm Wars” by Robin Baker–this book may shake the very foundation of what you thought was true about human sexuality the first time you read it!).
So where does that leave us? She WANTS to have sex with you. She is NOT SUPPOSED to want sex with you. She’s naturally gonna feel a little torn. But trust me on this guys…her genetic hardwiring is much, much stronger than her social hard-wiring! You just need to get her past the social programming and she’s yours!
How do you do this? First off….Let’s go back to the beginning: the approach. What are you guys doing to approach? Are you asking her opinion on something that even you don’t care about? Ask yourself why you’re doing this…You don’t want to convey interest? Why not? You are potentially interested, aren’t you? Guess what!? No matter how slick you think your indirect, non-interest conveying opener is…she already knows you’re interested in her. You know what else she knows? That you’re kind of being a pussy!
Think of it this way…Does Brad Pitt or George Clooney or Justin Timberlake (or INSERT ANY STEREOTYPICAL MALE SEX SYMBOL HERE) likely approach a woman he’s interested in and ask about their friend’s jealous ex-girlfriend? Though I’ve never seen any of these guys approach, I’d be very surprised if they did anything like this. What do high value guys do? They approach and confidently state their intentions.
“Wait? Are you suggesting I go up to a girl and tell her I want to fuck her???”
Basically, yes! That’s what I’m saying to do. I mean personally, I’m more likely to convey that I’d potentially like to fuck her….if she meets my qualifications, but for most guys…if he’s approaching her, chances are she’s already met all his qualifications. It’s funny how we’ve built up all these complex models to skirt around the issue and feign certain things so we can eventually communicate that we want to have sex with a woman. Why not just communicate that?
I can think of one major reason. Her friends are watching. It’s amazing the things a woman will do when her friends aren’t there to judge her vs. what she’ll do when they’re not around. Night and day in many circumstances. Be mindful of this when approaching women in groups (I think this social constraint is another major reason many of the “methods” were developed). But this can be worked around quite simply! I will address group situations in a bit while we focus on solo women.
“So Adonis, what have you been opening with?”
I’m glad you asked. Besides social openers [”wooooo”, “heeeey”, “yooooo”, etc which only really work in party/club/bar environments], I’ve been using direct interest openers. Here’s one of my favorites, “This may sound a bit random…..but….you’re….fucking…..cute!” The worst reaction I ever received from that opener was a wide-eyed look of arousal followed by, “I can’t….I’m married….but…uh…ummm” followed by deer in the head lights kind of look. She loved it and if I would’ve pursued her further [unfortunately I said this when I was a bit busy at work and didn’t have time to settle the logistics in this case], this woman could’ve easily been pulled. I don’t see why you couldn’t open any set with that one line. Or you could open the entire group with, “You guys seem totally chill, I had to come and say hi….for a sec”, then drop the above line on the girl you’re interested in.
This is the easy stuff and I’ve found that it sets a much better vibe than standard community indirect openers. Now, I want to turn my attention to what I think is the most incredible direct opener right now: The Apocalypse Opener! I’m going to give it to you here [credit: Ciaran of RSD] but if you have not read his posts, read them on www.rsdwiki.com. They are invaluable.
The Apocalypse is basically just 3 basic questions, but it will test your ability to maintain composure, state, & intent, so if you don’t have your inner game down yet….don’t use this! Get your inner game worked out first [I have a book about this very subject coming out very soon, message me for more info on that]. Here it is as cut and pasted from Ciaran’s post on RSDNation.com:
“You rock up to a chick and, in a confident, level voice you say
“Hey, how’s it going.”
She will say
“Fine.”
You then say
“Cool. What are you doing later?”
She will say
“I’m not sure.”
You then say
“Do you want to come home with me?”
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD………………..
HOLD IT MY SON……………………..
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE………………
Boom. Makeout. ”
Here is the group version of the same opener also cut and pasted from Ciaran’s post on rsdnation.com:
“Rock up to two chicks and say exactly the same thing, with this interesting twist:
“Hey, how’s it going.”
They will say
“Fine.”
You then say
“Cool. What are you doing later?”
They will say
“I’m not sure.”
You then say
“What are the chances of you two coming back to mine for a threesome?”
Then you hold.
Hold.
HOLD………………..
HOLD IT MY SON……………………..
HOLD THE FUCKING LINE………………
Boom.
That ‘Boom’ incidentally, is the heart of the S+A system.
It’s where you see it in a girl’s eyes. Shock, and awe. ”
And that’s it guys….That is what I’m using these days….and my results are going through the fucking roof! I encourage you to read Ciaran’s posts on “Shock & Awe” on www.rsdwiki.com. Feel free to ask me if you have any further questions about it, as I’ve been rocking this for the last month or so to astounding results.
Adonis